{"id":2193,"date":"2023-04-08T00:09:07","date_gmt":"2023-04-08T00:09:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/vibromera.eu\/?p=2193"},"modified":"2026-07-03T10:49:02","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T10:49:02","slug":"about-the-experience-of-balancing-the-cardan-shaft-directly-on-the-motor-grader","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vibromera.eu\/bs\/example\/about-the-experience-of-balancing-the-cardan-shaft-directly-on-the-motor-grader\/","title":{"rendered":"About the experience of balancing the cardan shaft directly on the motor grader."},"content":{"rendered":"

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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tPrijenosni balanser i analizator vibracija Balanset-1A<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h4>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
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\u20ac<\/span>1,975.00<\/span> + PDV (ako se primjenjuje)<\/h4><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/i><\/a>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>Dodaj u korpu<\/a>\t\n\t\t\t<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
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\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\tSenzor vibracija<\/a>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/h4>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t
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O iskustvu balansiranja kardanskog vratila direktno na motornom grejderu<\/h1>\n\n

Found an old correspondence between our lead specialist and one of our customers.
Correspondence from ten years ago!<\/p>\n

Autor : Valery Davydovich<\/p>\n

Introduction<\/h2>\n

I must admit that I was very surprised and pleased with the results of the letter written to us by Andrey Kobyakov, the driver of the motor grader.<\/p>\n

Njegov je list \u010dak i iznenadio mene – stru\u010dnjaka s vi\u0161e od 35 godina iskustva u oblasti vibrodiagnostics<\/a> and balansiranje<\/a>. I dugi niz godina radio sam u odbrambeno-industrijskom kompleksu, balansirao sam vi\u0161e od 1500 razli\u010ditih ma\u0161ina i mehanizama po\u010dev od obi\u010dnih ventilatora i pumpi za duvanje dima pa do sistema za navo\u0111enje antena i jedinstvenih \u017eiroskopa.<\/p>\n

A evo prvi put na field balancing<\/a> mo\u0107ne putne ma\u0161ine – motornog grejdera!!!, \u010diji je voza\u010d Andrej.<\/p>\n

\"Balancing

Balancing cardan shaft, crankshaft and clutch basket directly on the motor grader<\/p><\/div>\n

Andrej je nabavio na\u0161 ure\u0111aj za balansiranje “Balanset-1”<\/a> sasvim nedavno – krajem avgusta ove godine (2012).<\/p>\n

U malo vi\u0161e od dva meseca od tada, uspio je ne samo savladati hardver i tehnologiju balansiranja, ve\u0107 elimisati bez demonta\u017ee imbalance<\/a> glavnih sklopova svoje ma\u0161ine (pogonsko vratilo, radilica s ko\u0161aricom kva\u010dila, to\u010dkovi).<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s how Andrew describes the work he did in his correspondence with us.
(With his permission I publish his letters without cuts and editing).<\/p>\n

1. Pismo A. Kobyakova od 18. oktobra 2012.<\/h2>\n

Hello, Valery Davydovich! I wanted to write to you. I mastered the work with the device rather quickly and everything is available for unprepared people like me. My notebook accepts the program without correction. My first time installing it on stationary computer, balancing the wheels, the result is better than at the tire fitting. Tried 2 driveshafts on the spot, balancing seems fine. In general, the device met my expectations for good functionality at a reasonable price. The other day I balanced the flywheel on the motor grader I work on myself. The initial imbalance was more than 8000 g*mm, the remaining imbalance was about 900 g*mm, with a tolerance of 400 g*mm. Could have done better, but left intentionally, because you will need to balance the clutch assembly. Then we will have to balance the engine-gearbox cardan on the same grader. It\u2019s an eternal problem with motor graders. My superiors were kind of sarcastic about the job, but I guess time will tell.
In the process, a question arose: how do you stack corrective weights into one balancing weight? When balancing the gimbal it is more convenient. In my opinion in general it would be great if the program could make such calculation.<\/p>\n

2. Pismo A. Kobyakova od 31. oktobra 2012.<\/h2>\n

Hello Valery Davydovich!
\u017delim vam re\u0107i ne\u0161to o obavljenom poslu. Kao \u0161to sam vam rekao, poku\u0161ao sam balansirati skup kva\u010dila. Prvi poku\u0161aj je bio neuspje\u0161an. Po\u010detni nebalansirani moment bio je preko 28.000 g*mm. Dao sam zaklju\u010dak- misalignment<\/a>. Nakon toga je skup demontiran i pregled\u0430\u043d. Detektovani su dotro\u0161eni otvori za poravnanje u ku\u010di\u0161tu kva\u010dila i izglancavanje susjednih povr\u0161ina ku\u010di\u0161ta. Me\u0111udiski normalan, pogoni novi, ali upitne kvalitete (obojanje premje\u0161teno). Novi sam izabrao sam, samo jedan od \u010detiri je bio balansiran. To je slu\u010daj. Skup je ponovo slo\u017een pa\u017eljivije uz pomo\u0107 ure\u0111aja. Moji su kolege poklapali oko mene prstom u sljepo\u010di. Napravio sam zanimljivo otkri\u0107e: me\u0111udisk se postavlja samo u jednu poziciju od tri, kao i ko\u0161arica. Kao rezultat sam ga balansirao na 2600 g*mm. Masa cijelog skupa zama\u0161njak + me\u0111udisk + ko\u0161arica je oko 80 kg, radijus 430 mm, brzina 1900-2000 okr\/min. Motor je zadovoljan, radi glatko.<\/p>\n

Further the cardan. The first attempt was failed again, it has weight 15 kilos, length 650mm.<\/p>\n

I checked flanges, crosses, everything is OK, but it doesn\u2019t go. I took off the cardan. I turned it for half an hour. All the same, I spotted a slight radial movement in one of the crosses. Change of spider, balancing.<\/p>\n

Result: inicijalnu neuskla\u0111enost<\/a> at the first plane 1600 g*mm, at the second plane 1000 g*mm. Rezidualna neuravnote\u017eenost<\/a> na 1 ravnini 36 g*mm, na 2 ravnini 9 g*mm. Aplauzi. Zavjesa. \u0160efovi su \u0161okirani.<\/p>\n

Valery Davidovich, how can you evaluate such a job as a specialist?<\/p>\n

3. Pismo A. Kobyakova od 7. novembra 2012.<\/h2>\n

Valery Davydovich, hello! I\u2019m finally sending you the results of my work. On the photo is the first \u201chappy\u201d of our city. No one had ever done balancing before even on cars, let alone heavy machinery. The only exception is my experiments, more or less successful.
In the photo we see a rather massive driveshaft, on it are fixed with band clamps segments of lead rod<\/p>\n

\"Fig.1

Fig.1 Photo of the cardan with corrective weights installed in planes 1 and 2.<\/p><\/div>\n

You can also see the factory weight welded on. On the video you can observe a smooth rotation of the shaft. There is no movement of the gearbox (on the left in the video). No displacement of the engine (on the right) is observed. There is a significant reduction of noise in the cabin, the vibration is practically not felt. Minutes of balancing 29\/10\/2012 before repair of driveshaft (replacement of one cross member). Minutes of 31\/10\/2012 after repair. Protocols confirmed by our mechanic, who incidentally looked very negatively on this work.<\/p>\n

(Note: Unfortunately, I could not find the video itself.)<\/em><\/p>\n

\"Fig.2

Fig.2 Photo of the cardan with corrective weights installed in planes 1 and 2.<\/p><\/div>\n

\"Fig.3.

Fig.3. Photo of gimbal with corrective weight in plane 2.<\/p><\/div>\n

The vibration remains, but it is noticeable in the front of the engine, presumably the drive pulley and the fan. Now the grader is out on combat duty and the experiments have stopped.
I started balancing the flywheel of our second grader and went straight back to the repair. I found axial and radial movement of the crankshaft. After opening opened it showed that grinding is needed.
Please forgive me if I violated the laws of physics, I just did not know that you can do so.
Regards, Andrew.<\/p>\n

Reply to Kobyakov\u2019s letters<\/h2>\n

Andrew, I compared your balancing results with the requirements for these rotors, which are reflected in GOST 22061-76 Machines and technological equipment. Kvalitet balanseranog<\/a> grade system. General (the modern international counterpart is ISO 21940-11, formerly ISO 1940-1).
I think it will be interesting for you to compare your results with tolerances of this standard.
1. Crankshaft (including clutch basket etc.)
The tolerance should correspond to accuracy class 6 (see appendix 1, page 13).
In this class and at 2000 rpm the permissible residual unbalance values for each plane are between 40 and 100 \u00b5m (see diagrams on page 3).
Converted into permissible residual unbalance for your 80 kg rotor, the tolerance is between 3200 and 8000 g*mm.
You have achieved 2600 g*mm.
2. Cardan shaft .
The tolerance should be Class 5 accuracy (see Appendix 1, page 13).
(In the case of the cardan shaft you did not specify the speed, and I took it conditionally at 2000 rpm).
For this class and a rotational speed of 2000 rpm, the permissible residual specific unbalance for each plane is between 15 and 40 \u00b5m (see diagrams on page 3).
When converted to a permissible residual unbalance for a 15 kg universal joint shaft, the tolerance ranges from 225 – 600 g*mm.
You managed to achieve 36 g*mm in the first plane and 9 g*mm in the second plane !!!!.
That is impressive.
Regards.
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