{"id":2193,"date":"2023-04-08T00:09:07","date_gmt":"2023-04-08T00:09:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/vibromera.eu\/?p=2193"},"modified":"2026-07-03T10:49:02","modified_gmt":"2026-07-03T10:49:02","slug":"motor-greyderinde-dogrudan-cardan-mili-dengeleme-deneyimi-hakkinda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/vibromera.eu\/tr\/example\/about-the-experience-of-balancing-the-cardan-shaft-directly-on-the-motor-grader\/","title":{"rendered":"Kardan milini do\u011frudan motorlu greyder \u00fczerinde dengeleme deneyimi hakk\u0131nda."},"content":{"rendered":"

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Motorlu greyder \u00fczerinde kardan milini do\u011frudan dengeleme deneyimi hakk\u0131nda<\/h1>\n\n

M\u00fc\u015fteri aday\u0131 uzman\u0131m\u0131z ile m\u00fc\u015fterilerimizden biri aras\u0131nda eski bir yaz\u0131\u015fma bulundu.
On y\u0131l \u00f6nceki yaz\u0131\u015fmalar!<\/p>\n

Yazar : Valery Davydovich<\/p>\n

Giri\u015f<\/h2>\n

Greyder s\u00fcr\u00fcc\u00fcs\u00fc Andrey Kobyakov'un bize yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 mektubun sonu\u00e7lar\u0131na \u00e7ok \u015fa\u015f\u0131rd\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131 ve memnun oldu\u011fumu itiraf etmeliyim.<\/p>\n

Onun mektubu beni bile \u015fa\u015f\u0131rtt\u0131 – bu alanda 35 y\u0131l\u0131 a\u015fk\u0131n deneyime sahip bir uzman olarak vibrodiagnostics<\/a> ve balanslama<\/a>. Uzun bir s\u00fcre savunma sanayinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m ve s\u0131radan vantilat\u00f6rler ile duman pompalar\u0131ndan ba\u015flay\u0131p anten y\u00f6nlendirme sistemleri ve \u00f6zel jiroskoplara kadar 1500'den fazla farkl\u0131 makine ve mekanizman\u0131n dengeleme i\u015flemlerini ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdim.<\/p>\n

Ve burada, tarihinde ilk kez yerinde balanslama<\/a> g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc bir yol makinesinin \u2013 bir motor greyderin!!! – s\u00fcr\u00fcc\u00fcs\u00fc Andrey<\/p>\n

\"Kardan

Kardan mili, krank mili ve debriyaj sepetinin do\u011frudan motorlu greyder \u00fczerinde dengelenmesi<\/p><\/div>\n

Andrey, dengeleme cihaz\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 sat\u0131n ald\u0131 “Balanset-1”<\/a> olduk\u00e7a yak\u0131n zamanda – bu y\u0131l\u0131n (2012) A\u011fustos ay\u0131 sonunda.<\/p>\n

O g\u00fcnden bu yana ge\u00e7en iki aydan biraz fazla s\u00fcrede, denge sisteminin donan\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 ve teknolojisini tam olarak kavramakla kalmad\u0131, ayn\u0131 zamanda par\u00e7alar\u0131na ay\u0131rmaya gerek kalmadan ar\u0131zalar\u0131 gidermeyi de ba\u015fard\u0131 dengesizlik<\/a> makinesinin ana par\u00e7alar\u0131 (tahrik mili, debriyaj sepetli krank mili, tekerlekler).<\/p>\n

Andrew'\u00fcn bizimle yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 yaz\u0131\u015fmalarda yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u015fi nas\u0131l anlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u015fa\u011f\u0131dad\u0131r.
(Kendisinin izniyle mektuplar\u0131n\u0131 kesmeden ve d\u00fczenlemeden yay\u0131nl\u0131yorum).<\/p>\n

1. A. Kobyakov\u2019un 18 Ekim 2012 tarihli mektubu<\/h2>\n

Merhaba, Valery Davydovich! Size yazmak istedim. Cihazla \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmay\u0131 olduk\u00e7a h\u0131zl\u0131 \u00f6\u011frendim ve benim gibi haz\u0131rl\u0131ks\u0131z insanlar i\u00e7in bile her \u015fey anla\u015f\u0131l\u0131r. Diz\u00fcst\u00fc bilgisayar\u0131m program\u0131 d\u00fczeltme yapmadan kabul ediyor. \u0130lk olarak sabit bilgisayara kurdum, tekerlekleri dengeledim; sonu\u00e7 lastik\u00e7idekinden daha iyiydi. Yerinde 2 kardan milini denedim, dengeleme iyi g\u00f6r\u00fcn\u00fcyor. Genel olarak cihaz, makul bir fiyat kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131nda iyi i\u015flevsellik beklentilerimi kar\u015f\u0131lad\u0131. Ge\u00e7en g\u00fcn bizzat \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131m motor greyderin volan\u0131n\u0131 dengeledim. \u0130lk dengesizlik 8000 g*mm'den fazlayd\u0131, kalan dengesizlik ise yakla\u015f\u0131k 900 g*mm idi; tolerans 400 g*mm. Daha iyisini yapabilirdim ama bilerek orada b\u0131rakt\u0131m, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc debriyaj grubunu da dengelemek gerekecek. Sonra ayn\u0131 greyderde motor-\u015fanz\u0131man kardan\u0131n\u0131 da dengeleyece\u011fiz. Bu, motor greyderlerde bitmeyen bir sorundur. Amirlerim bu i\u015fe biraz alayc\u0131 yakla\u015ft\u0131, ama san\u0131r\u0131m zaman g\u00f6sterecek.
Bu s\u00fcre\u00e7te bir soru ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131: D\u00fczeltici a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131klar\u0131 tek bir dengeleme a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131na nas\u0131l y\u0131\u011fars\u0131n\u0131z? Gimbal dengelenirken bu daha uygundur. Bence genel olarak program b\u00f6yle bir hesaplama yapabilseydi harika olurdu.<\/p>\n

2. A. Kobyakov\u2019un 31 Ekim 2012 tarihli mektubu<\/h2>\n

Merhaba Valery Davydovich!
Yap\u0131lan \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar hakk\u0131nda size bilgi vermek istiyorum. Size de s\u00f6yledi\u011fim gibi, debriyaj grubunu dengelemeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131m. \u0130lk deneme ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oldu. Ba\u015flang\u0131\u00e7taki dengesizlik 28.000 g*mm\u2019nin \u00fczerindeydi. Sonu\u00e7 olarak \u015funu belirledim ki- hizas\u0131zl\u0131k<\/a>. Ard\u0131ndan grup s\u00f6k\u00fcl\u00fcp incelendi. Debriyaj muhafazas\u0131nda a\u015f\u0131nm\u0131\u015f hizalama delikleri ve biti\u015fik muhafaza y\u00fczeylerinde a\u015f\u0131nma tespit edildi. Ara disk normaldi, tahrik diskleri yeniydi ama kaliteleri \u015f\u00fcpheliydi (balata kaym\u0131\u015ft\u0131). Yeni olan\u0131 kendim se\u00e7tim; d\u00f6rd\u00fcnden yaln\u0131zca biri dengelenmi\u015fti. Durum buydu. Grup, cihaz\u0131n yard\u0131m\u0131yla daha dikkatli monte edildi. Meslekta\u015flar\u0131m bana \u015faka\u011f\u0131na parmak \u00e7evirme hareketi yap\u0131yordu. \u0130lgin\u00e7 bir ke\u015fif yapt\u0131m: ara disk \u00fc\u00e7 konumdan yaln\u0131zca birine tak\u0131l\u0131yor, sepet de \u00f6yle. Sonu\u00e7 olarak bunu 2600 g*mm'ye kadar dengeledim. Volan + ara tahrik + sepet grubunun toplam k\u00fctlesi yakla\u015f\u0131k 80 kilo, yar\u0131\u00e7ap\u0131 430 mm, h\u0131z\u0131 1900-2000 rpm. Motor memnun, d\u00fczg\u00fcn \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor.<\/p>\n

Daha fazla kardan. \u0130lk deneme yine ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z oldu, a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131 15 kilo, uzunlu\u011fu 650 mm.<\/p>\n

Flan\u015flar\u0131, mafsallar\u0131 kontrol ettim; her \u015fey normaldi, ama yine de sorun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmedi. Kardan milini s\u00f6kt\u00fcm. Yar\u0131m saat boyunca \u00e7evirdim. Yine de mafsallardan birinde hafif bir radyal hareket fark ettim. \u00c7apraz\u0131n de\u011fi\u015ftirilmesi, ard\u0131ndan dengeleme.<\/p>\n

Sonu\u00e7: ilk dengesizlik<\/a> birinci d\u00fczlemde 1600 g*mm, ikinci d\u00fczlemde 1000 g*mm. Kalan dengesizlik<\/a> 1. sahnede 36 g*mm, 2. sahnede 9 g*mm. Alk\u0131\u015flar. Perde. Patronlar \u015fa\u015fk\u0131n.<\/p>\n

Valery Davidovich, b\u00f6yle bir i\u015fi uzman olarak nas\u0131l de\u011ferlendirebilirsiniz?<\/p>\n

3. A. Kobyakov\u2019un 7 Kas\u0131m 2012 tarihli mektubu<\/h2>\n

Valery Davydovich, merhaba! Sonunda \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131m\u0131n sonu\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131 size g\u00f6nderiyorum. Foto\u011frafta \u015fehrimizdeki ilk “mutlu son” var. Daha \u00f6nce kimse otomobillerde bile dengeleme yapmam\u0131\u015ft\u0131; a\u011f\u0131r makinelerden bahsetmiyorum bile. Tek istisna, az \u00e7ok ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 olan deneylerimdi.
Foto\u011frafta olduk\u00e7a b\u00fcy\u00fck bir tahrik mili g\u00f6r\u00fcyoruz, \u00fczerinde kur\u015fun \u00e7ubuk par\u00e7alar\u0131 bant kelep\u00e7eleriyle sabitlenmi\u015f<\/p>\n

\"\u015eekil

\u015eekil 1 D\u00fczlem 1 ve 2'ye d\u00fczeltici a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131klar yerle\u015ftirilmi\u015f kardan foto\u011fraf\u0131.<\/p><\/div>\n

Kaynaklanm\u0131\u015f fabrika a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 da g\u00f6rebilirsiniz. Videoda milin d\u00fczg\u00fcn bir \u015fekilde d\u00f6nd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc g\u00f6zlemleyebilirsiniz. \u015eanz\u0131manda (videoda solda) herhangi bir hareket yok. Motorda (sa\u011fda) herhangi bir yer de\u011fi\u015ftirme g\u00f6zlenmiyor. Kabindeki g\u00fcr\u00fclt\u00fcde \u00f6nemli bir azalma vard\u0131r, titre\u015fim pratikte hissedilmez. Tahrik milinin onar\u0131m\u0131ndan \u00f6nce 29\/10\/2012 dengeleme tutanaklar\u0131 (bir \u00e7apraz eleman\u0131n de\u011fi\u015ftirilmesi). Onar\u0131mdan sonra 31\/10\/2012 tarihli tutanak. Protokoller, tesad\u00fcfen bu \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmaya \u00e7ok olumsuz bakan teknisyenimiz taraf\u0131ndan onaylanm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n

(Not: Maalesef videonun kendisini bulamad\u0131m.)<\/em><\/p>\n

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\u015eekil 2 D\u00fczlem 1 ve 2'ye d\u00fczeltici a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131klar yerle\u015ftirilmi\u015f kardan foto\u011fraf\u0131.<\/p><\/div>\n

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\u015eekil 3. D\u00fczlem 2'de d\u00fczeltici a\u011f\u0131rl\u0131k ile gimbal foto\u011fraf\u0131.<\/p><\/div>\n

Titre\u015fim devam ediyor, ancak motorun \u00f6n taraf\u0131nda, muhtemelen tahrik kasna\u011f\u0131nda ve fanda fark ediliyor. \u015eimdi greyder sava\u015f g\u00f6revinde ve deneyler durdu.
\u0130kinci s\u0131n\u0131f \u00f6\u011frencimizin volan\u0131n\u0131 dengelemeye ba\u015flad\u0131m ve do\u011frudan onar\u0131ma geri d\u00f6nd\u00fcm. Krank milinde eksenel ve radyal hareket tespit ettim. A\u00e7t\u0131ktan sonra ta\u015flama gerekti\u011fini g\u00f6sterdi.
Fizik kurallar\u0131n\u0131 ihlal ettiysem l\u00fctfen beni affedin, sadece bunu yapabilece\u011finizi bilmiyordum.
Sayg\u0131lar\u0131mla, Andrew.<\/p>\n

Kobyakov'un mektuplar\u0131na yan\u0131t<\/h2>\n

Andrew, balans alma sonu\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 bu rotorlar i\u00e7in GOST 22061-76 Machines and technological equipment i\u00e7inde belirtilen gerekliliklerle kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rd\u0131m. Balans kalitesi<\/a> s\u0131n\u0131f sistemi. Genel (modern uluslararas\u0131 kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 ISO 21940-11'dir, eski ISO 1940-1).
Sonu\u00e7lar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 bu standard\u0131n toleranslar\u0131yla kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rman\u0131z\u0131n sizin i\u00e7in ilgin\u00e7 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyorum.
1. Krank mili (debriyaj sepeti vb. dahil)
Tolerans, do\u011fruluk s\u0131n\u0131f\u0131 6'ya kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131k gelmelidir (bkz. ek 1, sayfa 13).
Bu s\u0131n\u0131fta ve 2000 rpm'de her bir d\u00fczlem i\u00e7in izin verilen art\u0131k balanss\u0131zl\u0131k de\u011ferleri 40 ila 100 \u00b5m aras\u0131ndad\u0131r (bkz. sayfa 3'teki diyagramlar).
Tolerans, 80 kg'l\u0131k rotorunuz i\u00e7in izin verilen art\u0131k balanss\u0131zl\u0131\u011fa d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde 3200 ila 8000 g*mm aras\u0131ndad\u0131r.
2600 g*mm'ye ula\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z.
2. Kardan mili .
Tolerans S\u0131n\u0131f 5 do\u011frulu\u011funda olmal\u0131d\u0131r (bkz. Ek 1, sayfa 13).
(Kardan mili s\u00f6z konusu oldu\u011funda h\u0131z\u0131 belirtmediniz ve ben de \u015fartl\u0131 olarak 2000 rpm olarak ald\u0131m).
Bu s\u0131n\u0131f ve 2000 rpm d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f h\u0131z\u0131 i\u00e7in, her bir d\u00fczlem i\u00e7in izin verilen art\u0131k spesifik balanss\u0131zl\u0131k 15 ila 40 \u00b5m aras\u0131ndad\u0131r (bkz. sayfa 3'teki diyagramlar).
15 kg'l\u0131k bir kardan mili i\u00e7in izin verilen art\u0131k dengesizli\u011fe d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcr\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde tolerans 225 – 600 g*mm aras\u0131nda de\u011fi\u015fir.
\u0130lk d\u00fczlemde 36 g*mm ve ikinci d\u00fczlemde 9 g*mm elde etmeyi ba\u015fard\u0131n\u0131z !!!!.
Bu \u00e7ok etkileyici.
Sayg\u0131lar.
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